of interest and is here given: (Badly Shes also at FTDNA but not elsewhere since the only reason I was able to do her autosomal was because her DNA was archived at FTDNA. Today I found a FABULOUS resource for Palatine history in the Mohawk Valley: the newspaper St Johnsville NY Enterprise, which ran genealogy and history columns from about 1920 to the 1950s (a Mohawk Valley version of the Boston Transcript). All rights reserved. When the opportunity to send the entire group to New York and Pennsylvania arose, they were all too happy to take advantage of the opportunity and send them on their way. Hello cousin. The Germans were principally farmers. 14 New York 4th August 1710. Im not experienced with GEDmatch interpretation, so I dont know the chances of a match with your people. return to Home Page return to NYC return to New Jersey . They tried to make life as normal as possible. Most of us are still there. Settlements were effected within the present bounds of Westmoreland and other eastern counties of this state. . The immigrants were called Poor Palatines: poor in reference to their pitiful and impoverished state upon arrival in England, and Palatines since many of them came from lands controlled by the Elector Palatine. My spouses ex is the Defoe-Reiffenberger descendant. Login to post. Not a few died from the ill-treatment received at the hands of the savages - some made their escape, and were dispersed in Canada. Sorry if this is inappropriate. Soon an alternate image of the poor Palatine refugees emerged. Its a bit overwhelming. The German Palatines were natives of the Electorate of the Palatinate region of Germany, although a few had come to Germany from Switzerland, the Alsace, and probably other parts of Europe. http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html. There are no projects for either Egli, Suder or Sonsst. Two thousand were consigned to the grave. I should have it in a few days. Their surname and my maiden name is Stauring. of age and 4d per diem for children under 10 years. At that time, these accommodationswere tenements by the docks in an unsavory area. Scarcely had the Mennonites commenced making their lands arable, when they sent a commissioner, Martin Kendig, to Germany and to Switzerland, to induce others to come to Pennsylvania. I am trying to spread it far and wide. Their publication is available online: Dr. Marianne S. Wokeck created a detailed list of "German Immigrant Voyages, 1683-1775" to Colonial America. There are living direct Ketzbach male descendants, and probably the Defoe and Reiffenberger as well. Thanks for bringing back memories of the docks at St. Katharines, as Ive been there on business. The The exciting new world of genetic genealogy awaits you. WebHunter Lists "Simmendinger Register": True and Authentic Register of Persons who in the Year 1709 Journeyed from Germany to America by Ullrich Simmendinger - Alphabetical list I was so very grateful to Said for taking me to where my ancestors camped. preponderance of evidence. Article on Palatine ancestors free on Jstor, The families from which the writer is descended have no. News. Palatines by Other Palatine families Im descended from include Feg/Feck, Koch, Helmer, Hilts, and Dornberger. There are still warehouses a block off of the waterfront. Our next two days were already spoken for. Ive been DNA tested and is in my wikitree site. Robert Wagner Warner Jr. It has been a most rewarding journey through our family history. Jones, Henry Z., Jr. and Lewis Bunker Rohrbach. Between forty and fifty thousand left their native country "their hearths where soft affections dwell." Thats exactly how I felt when I discovered them as well. My sources for Johann Friedrich Haegar are: 1) US and Canada, Passenger Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, an Ancestry.com database indicating he came to New York in 1709; 2) he is also listed in American Immigrant Minister, 1690-1811 by Gerald Fothergill, also found on Ancestry.com; and 3) The German Element in the United States, Vol 1, chpt 4, The First Exodus-The Palatine Immigration to New York. I dont remember, and Im not going to be in a place to look for another couple of weeks, at least. WebAnspach, Arendorff, Barthel, Baest, Batzin, Bauch, Bell, Bellinger, Bender, Berg, Bergman, Bernhardt, Betzer, Bierman, Blass, Bonenstiehl, Bonroth, Borst, Brack, Braun, Briegel, Bruchle, Buck, Burckardt, Busch, Clevenius, Conrad, Dachstatter, Dahles, Daether, Deuchert, Dill, Dillenbachin, Dings, Donsbach, Dopff, Dorn, Dreschler, Drumbaur, Drumm, Governor Hunter resorted to violent measures to secure obedience to his demands. Palatine DNA Project. Our ancestors and related families are in red: TOP ILLUSTRATION: A rare document showing signatures of the Palatine listmasters, from 1712. My Lckhards (later Lightharts) arrived in NY in 1710 with the Palatine group; they were also Loyalists hence the U.E. 103. (Being somewhat ostracized by his family for his religious views, Simon had immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1733. -- Smith-62120 05:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC). The water in the dock area looks dark, but you can see the boats moored today. Thank you so much for this article. - North Dakota State FB Hunter Luepke - per NFL Network - Mississippi State OLB Tyrus Wheat - per NFL Network, which adds it's a "deal that includes a $20,000 signing He came from the Palatinate to Pennsylvania, then to Maryland, and about 1783 to Rockingham Co., Virginia. . Relating to The Early Palatines and the First Settlers in the I guess that is the very meaning of redevelopment. The Palatinate (German: Pfalz) was one of these states, and was located along the Rhine, roughly corresponding to the modern German state of Rhineland-Pfalz. It is their form of diminutive. Prior to 1871, what is now Germany consisted of a number of separate states such as Wurttemberg, Prussia, Bavaria, etc., whose boundaries changed frequently as a result of war and other causes. Thank you so much. This, the mission among the Indians in Georgia, after a promising beginning, was at once suspended. It was named for the infant William V of Orange, whose mother Anne, daughter of King George II of Great Britain, was then regent of the Dutch Republic. Here they were doomed to experience the same resistance from the natives which the colonists at Halifax had met with, in settling the Peninsula; and the early history of the place contains little else than a constant succession of struggles with the savages in which, notwithstanding the powerful protection they received from the government, they lost many lives. To meet the high demand shipping firms contracted for extra ships. It brought history to life in a very memorable way. I did upload the DNA of my dad, my brother, and myself to GEDmatch several months ago, at the request of a relative. I have one family line who arrived in NY with the 1710 Palatines no idea whether they came from the Palatinate or from a neighbouring area, but I might be able to find a male descendant to test. p. service can be imagined and not only those living today but those who will This man is either listed as "Hoff" or "Hussmann" on the Hunter Subsistence Lists in 1710 and 1712. According to the story, the ship stopped at Rotterdam and the people there fed them. 437-438 of The Palatine Families of New York 1710, pub. WebPalatines in North America In 1710, three large groups of Palatines sailed from London. While Mannor of Livingston 31 December 1710. Its not DNA but you might also check with the Palatines To America organization on information on your family surnames. They weren't as concerned about bringing in money from this human cargo as they were about the weight and ballast they could provide to "speed up" the sailings. YSearch showed several people with either the Egli surname or Egli in their pedigree charts, but nothing that would suggest that they connect to the Egli family from Hoffensheim-Sinsheim. At Elizabethtown, where the first English settlement was made in New Jersey, 1664, there were many Germans prior to 1730. . His suggestion that they be offered other lands on the frontier was adopted. Box 776 Old Saybrook , CT 06475 Tel. 860-388-4656 Fax. All Your family is in Vol. Under Diebel. It took them three full weeks. In evaluating the reliability of a particular genealogy, we should consider whether the author cited their sources, and consider whether those cited sources are reliable. Over 3,000 had left London England almost 6 p. This gives a wonderful historical background to what they endured. in Palatine Township, NY, built 1725. Around 11,300 inhabitants, mostly port workers crammed into insanitary slums, lost their homes. Still, Id much prefer to test someone from my own proven line, just in case. . journal, as it is called is divided under the following headings: "The Well, here I am having just discovered the 1709s and that my husband appears to have been descended from the Kuntzlis and Islers of the New Bern group. 20, a NY Historical Marker locates the original 1712 Palatine road to Schoharie. p. Thank you for this article and thank EVERYBODY for all the links within the comments. This website requires a paid subscription for full access. A visit to Embury and Heck memorial church contains a horn blown by the burgermeister or Palatine leader to summon general meetings in the early days of the colony. On 8 January 1735, a fire swept through this area, destroying forty houses, one of which was the house of Simons parents. Hereafter, the influent accession from the European continent steadily increased, so much so, as to excite attention, and create no small degree of alarm of the "fearful of the day". July 4th: On entering the fertile, charming valley in New Jersey, which is drained by the meandering Musconctcong, the Passaic and their tributaries, and having reached a goodly land, they resolve to remain in what is now known as the German Valley of Morrison county. https://web.archive.org/web/20120524084404/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710first.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120524084604/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710second.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120524084449/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/ny/1710third.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120524085751/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710fourth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120525125954/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710fifth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120525081424/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710sixth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20111221102440/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710seventh.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20111115154524/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/ny/1710eighth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20111115154958/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/ny/1710tenth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120525125949/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710eleventh.htm, Send a private message to the Profile Manager, Province of New York, Immigrants from Holy Roman Empire, Public Comments: 860-388-4657 Email: [email protected] Jacob Cobel (Kobel), a miller, age 27, reported to be a Catholic, his wife and a son aged one half, were in the 4th group ofarrivals in England in 1709 according to the London Lists. The third of the parent colonies, ,is the place where the most famous Irish Palatines lived. Note that the spellings of names on these lists should not be assumed to match the spellings that the people's baptisms and marriages were registered under in Europe. You can click to enlarge. The Kau-ta-tn-chunk (Kittatiny or Blue Mountain) extending from the Delaware hundreds of miles westwards, was not an insurmountable barrier - that they crossed and laid out farms where shortly afterwards they, their wives and children, were exposed to the torch, hatchet and scalping knife of the savages, and their midnight assault and slaughter. The orphans were apprenticed by Governor Hunter, to citizens of New York and of New Jersey. The information about their time in England is much appreciated. 1695 I cant thank you enough for taking the time to reach out to me with the key to breaking down this brick wall. Thank you for your comments. They worked off their indenture, got land & when Isaac died in 1759 he was buried on his plantation near Orangeburgh, SC. their several arrivals at this place and ye other side Hudson River (the first Early Weidner families who arrived in Pennsylvania in the 1700s, Kusel (Pfalz, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany) Families, Swamp Lutheran Church burials, baptisms, marriages 18th century, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatinate_(region). The New York City Reformed Churchbook confirms he was from Switzerland, but spells his name Theroux.. Roberta, as Im sure you found in your research, 3,000 Palatines initially emigrated to Ireland. Berry Enterprises. in West Camp but no mention is made of those in East Camp although it is known The Minnesota Vikings have completed the NFL draft process by selecting six players and adding 15 undrafted free agents. Thank you so much for this interesting article on the Palatinates. I didnt until I discovered I was descended from 1709ers, and then became immediately and compulsively interested in these people, their travels, travails and fate. This group is just starting up but people are joining and sharing their GEDmatch DNA kits. Johan Wilhelm Simon and Catherine Sterner are my Palatine ancestors. New York 24 December 1711. . Anybody know where I can get one? Maria Barbaramarried Johann Jacob Schaeffer, a member of another 1709er Palatinate family. Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community. Determined, however, to reach the place for which they were destined - to have a home among the Dutch, they took the overland route from Philadelphia to New York. If you currently live in Germany and believe a brother of your ancestor was part of the 1708-1710 Palatine Emigration, you are a great candidate for our project. Dickinson, the Michigan star who entered the transfer portal last month, will visit Villanova on Friday. About Us | Contact Us | Copyright | Report Inappropriate Material In this act the Assembly promised also to find provisions, tools, etc, for three hundred persons for one year. April 20, 2023, 3:36 PM PDT. Their job was to tap the pine trees for their pitch, which was to be used as caulking on English ships. Doris told me that Jacob Kobel was part of the 1709 Palatine Immigration. NY Palatine Subsistence Lists of NY Governor Robert Hunter 1710-1712. Passenger lists are available for some Palatine migration ships, in most cases recorded on or after arrival. The hotel was gracious and called us a taxi, and a few minutes later our driver arrived, ready to take us anyplace we wanted. I notice there are only 4 in that project. Maybe one of the other people who have replied can help out. They moved some miles further up the river where they soon drove well. themselves and their families subsistance debtors to the Queens most Sacred There were 3 000 Palatines on 10 ships that sailed for NY and approximately 470 died on the voyage or shortly after their arrival. The Minnesota Vikings have completed the NFL draft process by selecting six players and adding 15 undrafted free agents. Doing some deep digging, one of the names Im looking at is Schaffer because of some baptism sponsorship. Thank you, too, for remembering me. I have sent the link to this article to all the representatives to this group from the partner societies. THANK YOU so much for all of this information on The German Palatinates. WebPalatine Family History of Adam Haines and 2009 Family Gathering On August 15th many of the descendants of Elizabeth (Froelich) Haines/Heins (1754-1837) and who was listed as "Urbanus Haintz" on Governor Robert Hunter's ration list on August 4, 1710. It wasnt true, but theGermans didnt discover that until after arriving in either Rotterdam or London, and then many refused to believe it. They were compiled in England by John Tribekko and George Ruperti, German clergymen. . . (Hunter Lists #263) was married that same day to his second wife, Maira Joseph Byerly arrived in Philadelphia from Rotterdam on the ship Louisa on 8 November 1752. His home still stands He was Johann Friedrich Haegar, the son of Johann Henrich Haegar and Anna Catherine Friesenhagen. of the Palatine children Apprenticed by Gov. The brother of my Albrecht/Albright ancestor, Jacob, is the Albright that persevered being beaten, almost to death several times; in an attempt to spread a new religion that he had come up with and believed in. Notice there is also a Palatine Y-DNA project at FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/palatine-dna-project/about. kindly service on the part of Mr. Ehle is duly acknowledged by the Enterprise He falsely claimed that the Palatines had taken possession of lands in Schoharie already granted to others. Over the following three years, more than two thirds of the Irish Palatine settlers left Ireland [Note from me: reluctant to pay rent, angered by landlords and reception of some R.C. Sililar heading 25 days 10th July to this day. But even those high expectations were shattered by the huge numbers who arrived, beginning earlier in the season than usual. With all of the frustration and disappointment, I just wanted to cry. West Camps, Ulster Co., N. Y. This project analyzes the DNA of men who descend along the DIRECT MALE LINE from the Palatine men who left Germany during the early 18th century, DURING THE PERIOD 1708-1710 OR SOON THEREAFTER. Some Mennonites coming from the Netherlands, settled along the Pakilmomink (Perkioming) and Schkipeck (Skippack) a few years later. In the meantime, while those were transported to North Carolina, and to New York, three thousand six hundred Germans were transfered to Ireland; seated upon unimproved lands in the county of Limerick, near Arbela and Adair; others, in the town of Rathkeale, where their descendants still reside, and are known to this day, as German Palatines, preserving their true German character for industry, thrift and honorable dealing.
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